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Tarron Sarek
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Posted - 2009.11.12 04:50:00 -
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Edited by: Tarron Sarek on 12/11/2009 04:51:07
 Originally by: Agmar
Edited by: Agmar on 11/11/2009 20:47:22
I think constructive criticism is more valid than calling CCP and their families ******ed.
Having said that, I'm wondering if we could get CCP's rationality behind this change so that we could have a decent dialogue.
Edit- I'd have to assume that they'd only do this to reduce server load, and they'll be adding in a massive damage bonus per level or a role bonus. Similar to when they nerfed NPC RoF and increased volley damage... right? RIGHT?!?
Jesus, at least one sane, non-whiny and level-headed reply ^^
You, dear sir, are my hero for today.
Yes I agree, some explanation would be nice.
Personally I don't think a supercarrier should deal double or 2.5 times the damage of a dread. 10k+ dps is uncalled-for, but it should at least be 50% more than a dread.
-edit-
Why don't people reply to the supercarrier-feedback thread?
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Tarron Sarek
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Posted - 2009.11.14 00:02:00 -
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Ok, how about:
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Tarron Sarek
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Posted - 2009.11.15 00:20:00 -
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Edited by: Tarron Sarek on 15/11/2009 00:20:38
Originally by: Manfred Sideous
My corp is pretty poor we dont have any T2 bpo collection we dont hold endless moon gold. We dont have a industry division to crank out isk but yet we have invested over 200 billion isk in supers because they are supposed to be end-game.
Could you please elaborate on that and how it makes sense?
I know, living next to r64 moon owners might lead to a slight loss of reality, but still.. mate 200bil is not poor.
You make it sound like owning T2 BPO collections or trillions of ISK was the norm.
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Tarron Sarek
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Posted - 2009.11.15 06:46:00 -
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Well, to be honest, motherships/supercarriers as capital killers was more of a bandaid solution, since motherships weren't being used, lacked a real role and there weren't that many options.
I'm personally starting to feel bad having ever suggested or supported this role re-definition.
In my humble opinion motherships should have had the Jump Portal Generators in the first place, instead of titans.
That would've given them more importance and meaning and I think it would've fit to the term 'mothership'.
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Tarron Sarek
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Posted - 2009.11.15 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Griceldia Kvonnir
Please don't consider reimbursements. That is the last thing you need to do. Because the next time you change anything in game, people will be all over the forums asking for their isk back.
Yep, this exactly.
Pandora's box at your fingertips..
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Posted - 2009.11.16 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: McFly
10.28.2009: CCP Abathur: Supercarriers will not be docking in Dominion. If this ever happens it will be the result of a very expensive infrastructure or outpost upgrade.
<----What Happened here? Did Nozh stuff Abathur into a trunk somewhere and take the reins?
11.13.2009: CCP Nozh: Super Carrier Changes: Can dock at stations
Add to this
2009.09.15: CCP Abathur: One side effect of this change is that the build cost for Supercarriers will go down slightly as they will no longer require the Capital Clone Vat Bay components.
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Tarron Sarek
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Posted - 2009.11.17 05:49:00 -
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There are so many greedy little selfish players posting in this thread, it really turns my stomach.
And I start to fear that the devs will listen to them, although they clearly haven't got balance in mind. They just want their own cheap EW immune station hugging 'supercapital' to play with.
It's exactly what all the rich but risk-averse players out there want. Or am I wrong?
Affordable, almost unkillable without major effort, and not even a certain level of commitment required anymore. No real consequences either.
It will be the ultimate 0.0 and lowsec carebear-mobile.
No, I don't have a mothership/supercarrier. Yes I could afford one. No, I still think it's badly thought-out change, which is about as far-sighted as the initial titan concept.
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Posted - 2009.11.17 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Drachenlord
Originally by: Tarron Sarek
stuff
Actually, the greedy little selfish players comment could be directed at the "bitter vets" that own the bloody things and don't want anything to change about them...
No, due to the 'greedy', it's solely directed at those who don't have one but want one.
Originally by: Drachenlord
However, I for one hope to god CCP does NOT allow these things to dock, EVER... A Supercapital is an investment, and a risky one... being able to hide it in a station and play docking games does not entail that risk.
It's good to see that we at least agree regarding this point 
Originally by: Drachenlord
As for them being reserved only for the wealthy or whatever you want to call it... Come on... 99% of the people saying they need to stay at their current price obviously have one and are up in arms over simple and selfish reasons...
Let's face it, most players who can't afford 13 bil also can't afford 6 bil.
Those players who can afford to spend 6 bil very likely also can affford 13 bil.
And those who can only afford to spend 6 bil shouldn't buy a supercarrier, as you shouldn't fly what you can't afford to lose..
Originally by: Drachenlord
Things change, suck it up and deal with it... you made an investment with that Mothership... (especially if you bought one just recently) and the investment is turning sour....
Is this a reply to my post? Because as I said I am not affected.
I could afford a mothership now.
I could afford two supercarriers then. I wouldn't even have to spend all my ISK, just half my wallet.
I still oppose this change.
Funny eh? No hidden agenda here.
Originally by: Drachenlord
Constructive posting will get more done than flaming, screaming, kicking and holding your breath like a 5 year old.
The Average Age of Eve players is rather high for you all to be acting like a bunch of goddamn grade school dropouts.
Again, is this directed at me?
I think I posted very level-headed.
I also think that most good counter-arguments have been presented in a neutral and reasonable manner, for example by the Mittani.
Try to misrepresent the critics as 5 year olds all you want.
Reality doesn't back it.
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